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A few more reasons to hate Wal Mart.

They didn't mention that Wal Mart employs and trains HR to help their employees get on public assistance, that they change students schedules every three weeks regularly to force them to either leave school or get fired, that they have been held liable for millions in damages for discrimination and sexism in hiring and promotions.

They are the prototypical evil company, and if you give them your money you are supporting everything that is wrong in America.

Before you say "I'm poor, I can't afford to shop anywhere else." Let me tell you how much bullshit that is. No one who is poor has internet, no one who is poor has a computer, no one who is poor drives a car with insurance. If you do any of these things, you are not poor. Your dollars have a political voice, use it.

Remember when I said that voting wasn't the most you could do? It is the least you can do, and you need to do more, we all do.


I try to dissuade [livejournal.com profile] aishlynn from getting our groceries at their outlet, up to and including to refusing to join in the grocery-getting if that's the destination.

I gladly pay a little more to shop anywhere else, for all the reasons above, as well as the fact that they have, without fail, some of the worst customer service I've ever seen - the last time I ended up there, I watched the cashier overlook the theft of everything on the bottom of the cart by the horde in front of us... who also left a package of meat on top of the candy rack.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:30 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] megiddo-lj.livejournal.com
Yeah, I hate Wally world. Bob shops there regularly. I don't.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:39 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
I want to drive up to Arkansas with Axis, Don, and a case of Bawls and a bucket of hockey sticks, and exercise some democracy after reading shit like this.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:39 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tylorael.livejournal.com
I dislike them a lot. Unfortunately they're 5 blocks from my house and nothing else is, so if I'm looking for something like highlighters for school or a cheap bowl to put something in for a party, I end up there. If I can swing it, I end up at the Target by my parents' place or even the KMart by my new place.

I have a guy friend who works there - at one of their few women-centric stores, and I swear I never see him because they work him to the bone. He says he feels like he is working for the Umbrella Corp.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:44 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fenixinthedark.livejournal.com
I am grateful that the nearest shopping of this kind is not Wal-Mart. However, are any of the other biggies any less guilty? Is Target really a better destination, or are we just supporting a different set of unethical behaviors when shopping there?
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:45 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
He is. *sigh*

In NOLA, they were the closest place to get too much shit, but I never went there first if I could help it, and now that I'm not scraping by on a Wal-Martian wage, I can happily never go there again.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:47 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
It's politics writ with dollar signs - a lesser evil, in all probability.

The insidious bullshit of W-M is that it pays its employees so poorly, they can't afford to shop anywhere else, so it gets the money it pays out in wages right back as sales.

I can see [livejournal.com profile] mighty_man saying, "Yeah, that's really smart on their part," but just because something is fiendishly brilliant doesn't make it any less fiendish.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:47 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tylorael.livejournal.com
I understand completely.

I mean, technically I kind of am scraping by on a Wal-Martian wage. But their stuff is crap so if I can't afford to buy it at Target, I usually just wait if I can.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:49 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] smaugchow.livejournal.com
Fuck them right in the ear. I refuse to go there, even though they bullied their way into a "convenient" position very close to my home. They advertise low prices, but everything in there is low - quality, service, cleanliness, professionalism, expectations - all of it. Wal-Mart caused the worst marital fight of my life due to not honoring an appointment - we waited 90 minutes and then stormed out. Fuck 'em. With a pitchfork.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:50 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] maelstromsl.livejournal.com
I absolutely positively REFUSE to shop there. I have not purchased anything from that horrible excuse for a store in over 4 years. It started out because the ignorant inbreds that shop there started getting rude and hostile toward me because of my appearance at the time, then I also was VERY disappointed in the poor quality of goods there. I am living PROOF that you really never ever have to shop at walmart again. There are ALWAYS alternatives. And well, add in how they like to keep their employees poor AND stupid? I think a "hell no" is appropriate here
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 13:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] smaugchow.livejournal.com
Target specifically tries to go a little up-scale, in advertising, product selection, store location and design, etc. They charge a little more, but personally I think it's worth it. I see far fewer trashy people in Target than Mal-Mart. Overall I'm sure they are more similar than different, though.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:08 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] tylorael.livejournal.com
While Target is still a discount store, they do pay their employees better wages and extra benefits, and from what I know of the few people I know who work there, do their damnedest to work around student schedules so that students can work there while they are in school. Additionally, they do their best to only buy fair trade items, rather than child labor or unfair labor items.

I think all of the discount super stores are a little evil, they have to be in order to be discount stores, but from what I know, Target is a better group.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
*nodding*
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:13 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
Fortunately, that convenient position won't be near your -new- home. :-)
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:14 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] squarewave.livejournal.com
And THAT is why I shop at Target,or anywhere else for that matter.

That is all})
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:16 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
They're preying on (for lack of a better term) people who can't necessarily do without. Poor parents who need school clothes for their kids, and don't want to go to Goodwill or whatever.

During the Katrina relief fundraising, someone mentioned the generosity of the eldest/richest Walton, and how he'd kicked in something like $7 million. Doing the math, that contribution relative to his income/net worth, is the equivalent of someone making the "average" American salary of $86.5k kicking in just under eight bucks.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:24 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ex-requiella957.livejournal.com
*applause* Well put. Wal-Mart indeed sucks.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 14:54 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] megiddo-lj.livejournal.com
Target has FAR better working condition. I know people who have worked there and - for a retail job - they were happier. And, yeah, the clientele at Wally World is enough to drive me to Target or even KMart.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 15:17 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ladysoleil.livejournal.com
It's somewhat academic, since I'm nowhere near a WalMart, but they've been trying to put one in Queens and getting stomped down by the neighborhood. I hope the stomping continues.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 16:39 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] the-yellow-king.livejournal.com
Wal-Mart, I have come to agree, is an evil company.
Target is the preferred destination of m'lady and I. Generally, it has better quality, if sometimes I am disappointed at the selection.
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 19:38 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fenixinthedark.livejournal.com
That smacks of the indentured servitude of old. And no, "fiendishly brilliant" may be brilliant, but that doesn't make it right. It reminds of of the film "Wall Street", which begs the question asked in a completely different film (Jurrasic Park - paraphrased from Jeff Goldblooms character, Ian); 'You spent so much time asking if you could do it, you forgot to ask if you should'?
Date/Time: 2005-10-17 19:43 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fenixinthedark.livejournal.com
Fuck them right in the ear.

:::Snerf:::

Gives a whole new meaning to "oral (aural) sex".
Date/Time: 2005-10-18 11:17 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] theonebob.livejournal.com
Thanks. It's the only place in the area that even carries my allergy meds.

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