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Salon on Mammaquins.

I fail to see why there's umbrage over it, and disagree with the author's outdated "fact" that 34B is the average these days.

And people wonder why women with large breasts feel marginalized and ridiculed. *sigh*
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 16:55 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
34 B?????? My 13 year old is bigger than that and she's slender. Given that most women gain at least a cup size after having a child (and I don't mean while nursing - I mean *after* all's said and done), what are they *thinking*???? As for feeling marginalized, as one of those vastly endowed women, you said it! I really *really* hate having to go to a speciality store just to buy bras. I find myself suffering through wearing some that really are too small, just because I can buy them at Lane Bryant for almost half the price.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 17:02 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] hellsop.livejournal.com
This is what happens when a successful pretty girl discovers that not everyone like the same looks. I find it kind of dumb that they're just sticking a 40" rack on a 25" waist, but I'm sure the fashion industry would collapse if a mannequin had a waist and hips that matched the chest.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 17:12 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] fenixinthedark.livejournal.com
Why does he assume they are patterned after people who have had breast augmentation, or that they are "DDDD's"???

That mannequin looks an awfully lot like I did pre-pregnancy, TYVM, and I *never* had augmentation and am not a DDDD.

Frankly, it's *NICE* to see clothing hanging on a mannequin that actually resembles a woman instead of a 12 year old boy so I can tell if it will look right on *ME*.

Fenix... size 12, DD. Yeah, I got curves. What of it?
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 17:20 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
Oh, and that DDDD they mention? Not necessarily augmentation, folks. Any woman who went in for that kind of augmentation should have her head examined.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 17:21 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ladysoleil.livejournal.com
You hit my only beef about it.

I figure, women come in all sizes, and if you're going to sell clothing to women, make the mannequins look more like us. Then again, that's never going to happen, considering that "plus size" models are usually about a 10-12.

34B may not be the correct average that reflects women today, but I'd take the bet that it is the size that a lot of clothing is cut to fit. I wear a small/medium top and I run into a fair amount of clothing that doesn't drape well in front, obviously it's cut for a larger size than mine.

Big boobage does nothing for me either way, don't have it, never particularly wanted it, and hear mostly complaints about it from friends who are more endowed. I've never had any complaints about the rack I'm carrying- I figure that anyone who was offended by the percieved lack self-selected themselves out of my way by not hitting on me in the first place. That suits me fine.

I think any change from the size 0, no curves mannequin that's in every store window is probably a good thing on the whole. I say let's go further and try getting some plastic girls with hips out there, while we're at it.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 17:35 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
Yeah, when I was a size *10* I was also a DD. I went up to a G when I was nursing. Never did see DD again, sadly. I was happy at that size. I still contemplate reduction surgery from time to time, but can't really justify the cost.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 18:16 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] poisongirl.livejournal.com
No humping the manequins!
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 18:17 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
I don't agree with your head examination criteria.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 18:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] geeki.livejournal.com
I went up to a G when I was nursing.
See it's comments like that, that scare me. I'm currently an H or an I, and I would cut them off now if I could (but chances of breastfeeding are slim and we are trying to get pregnant....soooooo).
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 19:07 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
That's probably because I doubt you've ever had to buy clothes for them or (unless I'm laboring under a vast misconception here ;-), had to live with them hanging off your chest. :-)
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 19:10 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
Ouch! You have my sympathy. Wait and see what happens post-partum. I have known a bare few women who ended up *smaller* after having a child. Most of us find it's the other way 'round, and some do go back to their pre-pregnancy size (wish I had).

Maybe when I win the lottery I'll get a reduction.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 20:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] whomajigi.livejournal.com
I'd rather have shapeless mannequins than ones that have monster breasts and tiny features. The shapeless ones at least just show the clothing off. The top heavy ones are real life Barbies. G cups and no other big curves? THAT is what will hurt people's self esteem. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for them having bodies that aren't 11 year old boys, but I think the large breasted one makes me more uncomfortable.

Not to mention that if they are showing them with G cups and not selling things that will fit the G or H cups, that is not fair. That's just a cheap marketing ploy.

Meh.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 20:29 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
I wasn't sure if you were objecting from an aesthetic, versus practical, perspective. Heh.
Date/Time: 2007-01-03 20:34 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
Heh! Strictly practical. :-):-) One of the nice incidentals I gained from my arthritis meds is that it also kills the shoulder and back pain that comes from lugging these blasted bowling balls around with me. ;-):-)
Date/Time: 2007-01-06 15:47 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] goth-iq.livejournal.com
The writer is small herself and insecure about it, thats why the problem with the manneqins and the 34B comment.

The measurements are not impossible- Jane Mansfield, and Jane Russel had those or close to them, which is why they were pin-ups.
If they had those measurements then when breast size was smaller, how much more now that the average is bigger.

Etcet, why don't you post this is TT, its an interesting atricle. :)


Date/Time: 2007-01-06 21:54 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] geeki.livejournal.com
You know depending on your size, you might be able to get it covered. I know I've been told due to my size it will be mostly covered.
Date/Time: 2007-01-06 22:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] juliabk.livejournal.com
I checked once, and now I don't recall if it was not covered or only partially covered. I've got good insurance in general, but some things are paid at lower percentages than others.
Date/Time: 2007-01-06 22:52 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] geeki.livejournal.com
I think mine is covered after like a 1000 deductible. SO I plan on just doing something similar to a pre-tax spending plan, and then doing it that way.