"Poly," meaning "many," and "ticks," meaning "blood-sucking parasites"

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tirani: Wanna place your bets on a Clinton/Edwards or Obama/Edwards ticket?
etcet: i'd prefer obama/edwards
tirani: Mister 9/11 is dropping out. Thank god
etcet: i don't know who'll get the nomination, but aishlynn made a good and fairly nuanced argument for why she went for obama rather than clinton - in dealing with foreign heads of state, especially middle eastern ones, they don't view women as being equal with men, and with all the rebuilding of our international image the us needs to do, having her may hamper the process. unfortunate, but probably true.
tirani: The pragmatist in me agrees. The women in me thinks they can go fuck themselves ;)
etcet: the fact that they're from a culture of misogynist assholes doesn't excuse it, but we can't make the mistake of ignoring reality to the extent that shrub does.

Comments

[argylerockstar.livejournal.com]

The NY Times said something funny about the President of 911. They said that Gulianni is like Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense...He's the only one that doesn't know that he's dead.

[rick-sec41.livejournal.com]

Wait, Hilary Clinton is a woman?

[netgoth.livejournal.com]

No shit! I'm just as surprised as you are.

[ivy]

$5 on Clinton/Obama. I think they'll be gritting their teeth, but will do it.

If I were a Dem, I would have voted for Obama more than Clinton, though I support the "go fuck themselves" argument for feminism. [grin] It's also possible that having a woman fixing things might help -- I don't think it hurt Margaret Thatcher much. But Obama seems more likely to effect actual change, and Clinton's inability to admit that she was ever wrong about anything is really offputting to me. I've had enough of that with W.

[megiddo-lj.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but many of those cultures don't like blacks any better.

[tirani.livejournal.com]

Mark and I don't believe that either of them could suck it up enough play second fiddle to the other. Clinton is deadset on being president or nothing at all, and Obama wouldn't want to be stuck in what is generally perceived as a ceremonial position.

I also don't think that an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket could much support south of the Mason Dixon in the general election. I'd like to think our country has gotten more enlightened than that, but I'm not really holding my breath much.

[the_axel]

I think when it comes to being head of state, I don'tthink skin colour or gender really make a difference - by taking on the role, the incombent becomes an honorary white man as it were.

Looking at women, from a can Arab heads of state deal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia are most significant; from a major power perspective, Maggie & Indira Gandhi.

[vatine]

NO way Maggie T was female, that's just a cover story by Dennis T to obscure the fact he'd rigged a male/male partnership WAY before it was legal.

[ivy]

I don't know -- has anyone ever turned down an offered VP slot? I could see it being offered to someone else first, maybe, but I think if the offer is made, it will be accepted. It's not a position of as much power as one might think, but it is a staging area for another run later for the main chance.

I think they'd actually do pretty well in the South. Dem turnout at the polls down there is higher than normal almost everywhere, and bigger than the Republican turnout everywhere but Michigan. (Interesting stats here -- 50% in New Hampshire? Go New Hampshire. Dear everywhere else, you are sad.) There are more black folks and women down there than there are regressive racists or sexists, I think.

I reserve the right to refine my opinion after Super Tuesday. [grin]