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I hope you Londoners were nothing more than inconvenienced, but it's sounding as if several dozen had a much lousier day than that.

So far, listening to NPR, it sounds like the IRA is almost assuredly NOT behind this (no coded warning, conducted during high-traffic time, etc), and a few of the terrorism experts are leaning towards Al Qaeda as far as MO and apparent motivation. One of the former CIA agents who spoke out critically of the G8 leaders made what to me was a very interesting point - if it -was- AQ, the current administration is going to be -very- reluctant to say so, because they've been trying to convince the world that "it's back was broken," and that it was no longer a threat (despite, you know, that OBL asshole is still running around. . . remember him?).

Sorry, Don, I don't think it was rabid duck-squeezers, but I'll buy you a non-alcoholic beer if I'm wrong.
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 13:02 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] voratus.livejournal.com
According to cnn (story here (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html)), a group called the "Secret Organization group of al-Qaeda of Jihad in Europe" has claimed responsibility.
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 13:07 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
The news I've heard/read thus far has almost unanimously said two things about them:

1) Their claim has not been substantiated (and their site is offline)
2) Their wording -is- consistent with previous AQ claims/propaganda

Whether or not these two things taken together add to or harm their credibility, I can't say. However, this strikes me as being one of the dorkiest names for a group, ever. . .

Date/Time: 2005-07-07 15:44 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] nener.livejournal.com
However, this strikes me as being one of the dorkiest names for a group, ever. . .

Heh, I thought I was the only one thinking that. If they are responsible, they need a better PR guy. Does S.O.Q.J.E. make some sort of meaningful acronym in their language...in any language?
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 17:46 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] sandman74.livejournal.com
Often times a ghost group will put out the claim of responsibility. It allows for there to be yet another distraction in trying to determine the real action group. It is also used by State sponsors of terrorism plausible denibility.
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 13:15 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] theonebob.livejournal.com
I agree with you about the Al-Qaeda thing. I thought we (the allies against terrorism) disrupted their ability to operate. Shouldn't we at least have known about this? If we did, why did we let it happen? If not, what are we doing futzing around in Iraq?
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 13:41 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
The fact that nobody'd ever heard of the group that claimed responsibility until today means one of two things - either it's a made-up group, claiming responsibility, or our counter-terrorism intelligence is about as effective as a saran-wrap prophylactic.
Date/Time: 2005-07-07 17:53 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] sandman74.livejournal.com
We have never really gotten a true handle on just how spread out the web of al-Qa'ida is. Most reports suggest al-Qa'ida's leadership is three deep at each level but are compartmented for security purposes.

I think our leadership is right in describing the elimanation of the senior leadership as back breaking, it is for most any organization; however, these folks are able to conduct operations without needing permission from the "HQ" if you will.
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Date/Time: 2005-07-07 13:58 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
See, that's why we like you - it shouldn't take a Real Man to admit he was wrong, but, apparently, it does, and you are. *shrug*

Frankly, I'm to the point of wanting to slap the strident duck-squeezer who's making an ass of herself on your post by misconstruing everything said in counterpoint.

But then the terrorists win, or something.

If I'm going to be this annoyed, I might as well channel it into doing some actual work.
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Date/Time: 2005-07-07 14:06 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
'k

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