An Immodest Proposal

[digitaldiscipline]

Obviously, a lot of people are unhappy with the [potential/beginning] activity in Iraq, the mideast, and the Oval Office in general. To you I make a suggestion [how far my tongue may or may not be in my cheek is left as an exercize for the reader]:

Let President Bush have his campaign, or at least get it well underway, then assassinate him, if he's that onerous.

[Note: This statement could, in theory, be considered seditious, were it not hypothetical. Don't say I never go out on a limb for y'all. :-/]

Comments

[gargoyl.livejournal.com]

Echelon called. They said you get detention for that one.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

I derive no end of amusement from the fact that this purported snoopware they may or may not be using shares a name with a gratuitously obnoxious cock-rock band. I keep imagining Pete Steele high-fiving Donald Rumsfeld if they actually intercept something other than endless pr0n queries.

I've called for heads on pikes before. I may have to keep doing it.

Frankly, getting rid of the whole lot of political flacks, of every stripe, and making lobbying and political contributions capital offenses makes for a decent start. But that's just me, the token, well-spoken anarchist. It'd never work, too many people are assholes. *sigh*

[katyakoshka.livejournal.com]

Personally, I always thought that removal via deadly force was the most logical option. But then, you'd have to take out most of the Cabinet, too, and half the leadership of the Senate, which just gets too messy.

In the end, something will give, and there will be a change. I just don't think it's anytime soon. (Not holding my breath until 2004, but I will at least hope for some reversals in power, domestically.)

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

use the following command to reach mbox:

mutt -f mbox

or I can redeliver to your inbox if you like. I suspect that it's your IMAP client freaking out, as I can find nothing wrong with how your inbox or mbox file are behaving with any other client.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

let's go with the mbox redirect, then. i haven't figured out how to hit "send" using MUTT.

i'm going to be over here feeling CLI-inept for a bit. mozilla will be summarily bitchslapped when i get to the home box.

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

Here's some evidence of freaking out IMAP:

Mar 20 11:16:46 othin imapd[24753]: Authenticated user=rafe host=h-66-167-188-70.HSTQTX02.covad.net [66.167.188.70]
Mar 20 11:16:46 othin imapd[5735]: Authenticated user=rafe host=h-66-167-188-70.HSTQTX02.covad.net [66.167.188.70]
Mar 20 11:16:46 othin imapd[4650]: Authenticated user=rafe host=h-66-167-188-70.HSTQTX02.covad.net [66.167.188.70]
Mar 20 11:16:46 othin imapd[13563]: Authenticated user=rafe host=h-66-167-188-70.HSTQTX02.covad.net [66.167.188.70]
Mar 20 11:16:46 othin imapd[25186]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) user=rafe host=h-66-167-188-70.HSTQTX02.covad.net [66.167.188.70]

Note three simultaneous connection attempts, which the IMAP daemon shuts down as being Just Plain Wrong.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

any idea where "mbox" came from? and would it be possible to simply rename it "inbox" to accomplish the "good thing"?

(as for my imap client trying to create a local folder called "mbox," it puked an error message "folder already exists" at me - it's bad enough that there's a ghost local folder (KillMe) that I can't destroy because it was successfully deleted in an ssh session, but. . . goddamn, i'm dense some days)

Re:

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

touch KillMe

from the command line, if the ghost folder is called "KillMe". Case matters.

If you want, I can have the emails in mbox redelivered to you.

Re:

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

If you want the redelivery, though, turn off the mbox thingy you mentioned in another post.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

there isn't a local folder (ie: in mozilla on this machine) called "mbox" for me to do anything with, so the redelivery should be fine.

at present, attempting to view either the "tst" or "2nd tst" messages results in an hourglass with a "loading document" message, and does not show the body text. color me confused.

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:53:11AM -0600, Rafe wrote:
> this is what i'm seeing - new items (ie: stuff that wasn't there
> yesterday) are:
>
> Mail, dead.letter, mail, and mbox.work. killme has been deleted from
> the CLI for several weeks, and doesn't appear in my imap config settings
> locally, it just ghosts along in the "folders" window of mozilla (which
> baffles me).

Mail was created by mutt. mutt puts folders in a folder called "Mail" in
order to keep the main directory level cleaner.

mail was created by mail, for reasons similar to what mutt did with
Mail.

dead.letter is an unsent email.

mbox.work is a temporary copy of the mbox file that I was using to get
the name mbox to non-existance; sometimes thing notice if files exist
and use them if they're there, and not if they don't.

> by "touch" in the CLI, could you be more specific? is that just a "cd
> killme" command that alerts the daemon that hey, this thing ain't here?
> or is it something more specific?

"touch" is a command that says 'update this file's access time, creating
it if necessary'. That should create an empty box on the mailhost. So, if
you use exactly the same name as the ghosty folder, you in effect put
the mailbox UNDER the local entry, and the entry should work again,
including being deletable.

> and, yes, i'd like the mbox to be redirected to the inbox, or whatever
> would shunt incoming mail to the inbox.

Done.

It sounds like the IMAP client is somewhat hosed. Can it be uninstalled and reinstalled?

[etcet.livejournal.com]

what i'm seeing: mozilla's inbox spins away, as if it is downloading a local copy of the messages, and it shows the header line of the new mail (your "tst" message is the most recent), but cannot/will not display the message body or download the message(s).

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

try starting the IMAP client again.