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Today the Rude One really outdid himself, summarizing GWB's prayer and Jesus' reactions thereto.

Said Bush, "We ask Him to heal the sick, and comfort the dying, and sustain those who care for them. We ask Him to bring solace to the victims of tragedy, and help to those suffering from addiction and adversity. We ask him to strengthen our families, and to protect the innocent and vulnerable in our country. We ask Him to protect our nation from those who wish us harm -- and watch over all who stepped forward to defend us. We ask Him to bring about the day when His peace shall reign across the world -- and every tear shall be wiped away."

Jesus wondered, between technicolor yawns, why every time conservatives talk about prayer, they make it sound like people can't do shit for themselves, but when it comes to the government actually doing shit to, you know, "help those suffering" and protecting "the innocent and vulnerable," it's all, "Hey, motherfuckers, do that shit on your own." Or pray. It's a vicious circle.

Bush went on: "Experiencing the presence of God transforms our hearts -- and the more we seek His presence, the more we feel the tug at our souls to reach out to the poor, and the hungry, the elderly, and the infirm. When we answer God's call to love a neighbor as ourselves, we enter into a deeper friendship with our fellow man -- and a deeper relationship with our eternal Father."

Jesus yelled at his computer, "No, no, no, you don't get to say this shit when you veto a bill to give more children health care because you're afraid some adults might get to go to the doctor, too. Fucker."

That, friends and neighbors, is exactly fucking it when it comes to ther Religious Right and the GOP, and whey they deserve one another's clammy embrace when they're dropped into the fucking ocean.

Comments

[kat1031.livejournal.com]

This is why I believe that most people who are pro-life are actually only pro-fetus. Really being pro-life would imply that you cared about those fetuses after they were, you know, actual children, and you'd want them to have things like quality health care, safe housing, a solid education and real prospects for a decent future and productive life.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

The fact that the fetus, in the eyes of a certain type of folks, has *more* rights than the mother who carries it, is deeply contrary to the way I view things.

[ladysoleil.livejournal.com]

I hate the term "pro-life" to mean "pro-fetus". How is being pro-choice not in favor of life? Because I am in favor of the life of the mother and I believe that should factor into the decision instead of forcing women to have children?

gahhh.

[kat1031.livejournal.com]

I tend to agree. My political feeling on abortion is that I'm not a doctor, I'm not a pregnant woman and I'm not responsible for either dispensing medical advice or moral advice to strangers. I don't think our government is, either.

My personal feelings are much more complex.

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

That is very true. I read an article on that very thing wherein people protesting a clinic were interviewed. Their answers about the child they so wanted to be born were very telling. Lots of "I can't be responsible for all the worlds children" and the like.

The entirety of the abortion debate is completely skewed and flawed. No one is really thinking it through anymore... just spewing party lines, and I mean that on both sides.

The issue is not "whose body is it"... the real issue is the one you present right here. Who the hell is going to care for them once the mothers are forced to carry them to term? The premise that "adoption is an option" is a false one. If the father is known, he can block the adoption. That does not mean he has to take the child. A woman CANNOT choose adoption if the father refuses to sign off on it if his identity is known.

The premise also seems to be one in which the conservative right believes that it is women who WANT abortions. When there is an instance of one parent wanting an abortion and the other not, the overwhelming majority of the time it is the MAN who wants it and is pressuring the woman to get one, and the woman who does not want it.

Until or unless we STOP holding women solely responsible for "keeping their legs closed", and start holding men EQUALLY responsible for maintaining their virginity... until we stop holding women responsible for being the sole and only gender responsible for abortion, and in fact begin to address that abortion is MORE often the choice of the male partner... until we start looking at the reality that adoption is NOT always an option... until we start looking at how any children born are then going to live... until then, abortion NEEDS to be safe and legal, and all the other idiotic defenses the "pro-lifers" want to spew are nothing but empty rhetoric.

[summers-place.livejournal.com]

I don't know where you're getting the idea that women don't want abortions and men are the ones telling us to abort. I'd like to see some stats on that. I know this much: I got pregnant when I was 19 years old, and I wanted an abortion, so I told my boyfriend that's what I wanted to do. After he'd looked me square in the eye and said, "I can quit college and get a job and we can get married and raise the baby."

"I am not ready for motherhood," I said. "And I doubt I have the emotional strength to bear a child and then give it up for adoption." So then he admitted that while he was relieved that I was opting for abortion, he would never have asked me to do so, because since I was the person who'd have to spend nine months pregnant, I was the only one who really had a say in the matter, as far as he was concerned. He'd marry me and raise children with me, or he'd take me to get an abortion and he'd pay for it, or he'd sign off on adoption papers, but it was MY decision to make.

I've known my share of couples who could tell you virtually the same story.

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

I am a little confused where you are coming up with this interpretation that I am making an absolute statement.

I am in no way saying that, in every case, it is an issue of the man wanting an abortion and the woman not. Please re-read the statement. I am quoting a statistic I have read that said, when there is a disagreement amongst a couple as to whether to abort or no, the majority of the time, it is the man who wants it and the woman who does not... again, when there is a disagreement. That does not mean that there have never been any instances where the opposite held true, or that it it is even 'infrequent'. Just that there are more instances of it being a situation when there is a disagreement that the man wants it and the woman does not. I will look for the information again to quote it here.

Regardless, the quote does not mean I believe that the issue is that choosing to do so is a bad thing that ought to be laid at the mans feet instead of the womans. My point is that abortion is one potential solution to an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy to which both genders contribute, and until we start addressing it as such, and until the conservative right gets off the tack that women are somehow solely responsible for abortion, it needs to remain safe and legal. The issue is a societal one... not a gender one.