From an IM conversation this morning...

[digitaldiscipline]

tirani: please explain to me why denying a woman pre-natal care solely on the basis of her imagration status is a good thing? Isn't her child, who's going to be born here anyway, going to be a citizen?
etcet: fetuses are only politically important when they're being actively harmed
or threatened.
etcet: the child isn't a citizen until it's born; until then, it's an immigrant, and must be treated like shit.
tirani: I don't see how denying a basic healthy birth is a good thing
etcet: i wish i didn't have such an incisive and nuanced understanding of how fucking stupid politicians are
etcet: WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER IMMIGRANT BABY. (uh, it'll be an american baby, dipshit) STOP UNDERMINING MY RHETORIC WITH FACTS.

Comments

[kendra-manycats.livejournal.com]

It's almost like we're still competing for the title of highest infant mortality rate in the developed world. But we've already won that title.

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

I'd laugh my ass off if it wasn't so true.

Can someone please shoot Ann Coulter for me? I'd consider it a personal favour. Kthnxby

[etcet.livejournal.com]

How about we beat her to death with Michelle Malkin?

[etcet.livejournal.com]

There *is* internal consistency here - the rights and ability of the mother to obtain medical treatment.

Of course, there is also internal consistency on the part of the opposition - the denial of health care services to the fetus-bearer.

It's basically a split along whose side you're on - the pregnant adult, or the unborn fetus.

In three cases out of four, the "liberals" comes out ahead.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

That's got some sense to it; I'm on the side of the sentient adult over the unborn.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

I think you know you're making a facile argument here; you've debated the subject enough to know that there are cases where abortion is not merely employed as a substitute for birth control - rape, incest, etc - and, other than abstinence, current forms of birth control approach, but do not meet, 100% efficacy.