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[livejournal.com profile] ruefullyamused shared an interesting editorial on Joe freaking Scarborough getting a clue about the health insurance debate.

"Why are we paying profits for insurance companies?" [NY Rep. Anthony] Weiner asked Scarborough. "Why are we paying overhead for insurance companies? Why," he asked, bringing it all home, "are we paying for their TV commercials?"

Weiner, who recently warned that President Obama could lose as many as 100 votes on a health bill if a public option is not included, really wants single payer -- Medicare for all Americans is his goal. What a crazy, way-out, reckless notion, Joe went into their encounter believing. But Weiner asked some simple, direct questions that no politician, much less Obama or HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, has managed to pose:

What is an insurance company? They don't do a single check-up. They don't do a single exam, they don't perform an operation. Medicare has a 4 percent overhead rate. The real question is why do we have a private plan?

"It sounds like you're saying you think there is no need for us to have private insurance in healthcare," Joe asked at one point.

Weiner replied: "I've asked you three times. What is their value? What are they bringing to the deal?"


[emphasis mine]

I've said repeatedly that the mandatory requirement for stuff like auto insurance is tantamount to state-sanctioned extortion. Yes, I see the value in protecting yourself in the event of something bad happening, but you're also having to foot the bill for folks who don't obey the law and drive around uninsured (I don't have numbers to support or refute this hunch, but I am almost willing to bet that uninsured motorists are less-safe drivers; if anyone has data, I would love to see it).
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 15:17 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] baobh.livejournal.com
It's hardly trend-related, but the stupid asshole who was driving when he flipped his car and broke my cousin's fucking neck didn't have insurance.

*grumble*
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 15:34 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
It seems like the responsible always end up paying for the irresponsible.

My inner Libertarian seems to be putting his boots on again.
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 15:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] hellsop.livejournal.com
No press ever bothers to mention when driver ARE insured... It's kind of ironic that, starting sometime in 2010, WI is actually going to start requiring liability coverage.
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 15:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
NY and FL both require it, I believe.

If you have a lien on the car, it's completely understandable that the lienholder wants to protect their investment/collateral by requiring it; however, once you own the vehicle outright, the ongoing stipulation seems excessively big-brotherish. I don't have a better solution, at least not this morning.
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 15:57 (UTC)Posted by: [personal profile] the_axel
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Socialised car insurance.

BC (and some of the other provinces) manage car insurance the same way we manage health care.

No waiting lists & you get to choose your own repair shop.
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Date/Time: 2009-08-22 20:11 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] lil-m-moses.livejournal.com
Item 3 is the sticking point. So many people can't get non-employer insurance because they have some "preexisting condition," which can range from being pregnant to having asthma to having cerebral palsy, and preexisting conditions jack the private rates out of most peoples' budgets. We're not even necessarily talking working poor, but even people who freelance or just work for an employer that doesn't provide health care coverage.
Date/Time: 2009-08-22 18:42 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] helcat.livejournal.com
I, for one, am very glad we have automobile insurance right now.

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