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This, right here, is why I think anyone making under a hundred grand a year and voting for the GOP either hates themselves, or doesn't understand economic policy.

Or, they're voting on social issues [read: abortion] that tend to be played up by the right wing, in which case, this sort of argument has no traction anyways.

After all, the reason the [right] winger crowd can’t find a way to be coherently angry right now is because this country has no healthy avenues for genuine populist outrage. It never has. The setup always goes the other way: when the excesses of business interests and their political proteges in Washington leave the regular guy broke and screwed, the response is always for the lower and middle classes to split down the middle and find reasons to get pissed off, not at their greedy bosses, but at each other. That’s why even people like [Glenn] Beck’s audience, who I’d wager are mostly lower-income people, can’t imagine themselves protesting against the Wall Street barons who in actuality are the ones who fucked them over. . . . -- Matt Taibbi
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 21:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com
Greenwald has demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the Tea Partiers.

It's not a GOP thing. The Tea Party folks, the 9/12 folks, they're every bit as mad at the GOP as they are at the DNC, but the DNC enthralled media (everyone except Fox, who is the GOP enthralled media) never mentions that part. (They don't seem to understand the existence of people who aren't on their team, but aren't on the "other" team either.)

And they're mad at the GOP for the very reasons that Greenwald claims they should be. Yes, it is something of a social issue, but the argument you think Greenwald and Taibbi are making won't get any traction for completely different reasons that what you think.

These people are mad at the government taking stuff that doesn't belong to them, and giving it to other people. And it doesn't matter if those are poor black folk or evil corporate overlords.

At least the DNC is honest when they say they're going to rob Peter to pay Paul. A lot of these people are coming out now because the GOP claims to not do that, but they screwed the pooch big time with the Wall Street and Banking bailouts. And they're mad that the DNC went and did exactly the same thing for GM.
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 21:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] etcet.livejournal.com
How many bullets do you figure it would take to un-fuck things, anyway?

*sigh*
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 21:52 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ruefullyamused.livejournal.com
~ 6 billion. Luckily we live in the World's Greatest Arms Supplier, so they should be cheap enuf, right? *eg*
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 22:05 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com
Actually, that's China.
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 22:11 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ruefullyamused.livejournal.com
I was going by the numbers in this article, but if China can supply 6 billion rounds cheaper, huzzah!

Despite Slump, U.S. Role as Top Arms Supplier Grows (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/07/world/07weapons.html?_r=1&hp)
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 22:16 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com
I suppose I should have been less terse. China has better plant capacity than we do for small arms production.
Date/Time: 2009-09-15 01:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] timswar.livejournal.com
well yeah, but if you really need to wipe out 6 billion there's nothing better than good ole USA killing technology to do the job.
Date/Time: 2009-09-15 01:40 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com
Yeah, but I'd want to be able to live here afterwards. Fallout sucks.
Date/Time: 2009-09-14 22:06 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com
I don't think this problem is solvable with bullets, sadly.
Date/Time: 2009-09-15 02:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zymergist.livejournal.com
I have had a thought for years now;
Make politics a capital crime and conscript the qualified into office.

(yea, I know it wouldnt work but its a nice thought....)
Date/Time: 2009-09-15 03:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] moth2theflame.livejournal.com
Greenwald always nails it. He's one of the insightful and knowledgeable bloggers out there.

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