Indana: Better Eugenics Through Stupidity

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http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2005/10/3/223530/406

The Crime of "Unauthorized Reproduction"
New law will require marriage as a legal condition of motherhood

By Laura McPhee

Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana, including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."

According to a draft of the recommended change in state law, every woman in Indiana seeking to become a mother throu gh assisted reproduction therapy such as in vitro fertilization, sperm donation, and egg donation, must first file for a "petition for parentage" in their local county probate court.

Only women who are married will be considered for the "gestational certificate" that must be presented to any doctor who facilitates the pregnancy.

Swarmy, where were these assholes when those inbreds in your in-laws' family tree were dropping out their shit demons?

In other news, both Kim and I feel like hammered dogshit, just in time to ruin the season opener tonight. *sigh*

Comments

[mykal.livejournal.com]

I saw that on the news this morning. Indiana is really an embarassment 99% of the time.

[mykal.livejournal.com]

Here's my letter to Senator Miller...

I am shocked by the notion that you would propose to legislate reproductive rights in your efforts with assisted reproduction. You're essentially telling dictating who can and cannot reproduce.

If a person makes the monumental effort to bring a life into the world through assisted reproduction, then I would wager that they would care more for that child than most married or even unwed couples do, who might conceive by chance.

And will you next be looking into the backgrounds of married couples who conceive natrually? Who says that they are fit to reproduce? Just because they are wed in the eyes of the state, this does not mean that they are fine, upstanding people. Numerous times I hear news stories about parents murdering their own biological children. Marriage does not equal stable and "good".

And what about divorced couples? Evidently, their moral foundation was not strong enough to stay married. Do they need to apply with the state in order to continue to have children? Even if they re-marry? Will this soon be part of the process to apply for a marriage liscense? Well heck - why not start telling us who we can and cannot marry based on our very genetics?

Senator Miller, your proposal makes no logical sense. Instead of attacking the people who want to have children and contribute to the growth of the human race, why don't you look to assist those who already have children and may not be able to provide for them?

Why not use your position to help instead of hurt? That's what God would want.

I always throw in God whenever I email legislators for some reason. Just because they do all the time.

[kungfugimp.livejournal.com]

I'm raising an eyebrow on this one...it's kind of silly. So, if this were to pass, what would stop a woman from just going into another state and getting invetro? Especially since the law would only cover women that were artificially impregnated.

And, while at times I do feel that people should get a license to breed...the reality of it isn't practicle. What are we, China? (shaking head) trying to regulate morality by laws just doesn't work. And Indiana? Like pregnant unmarried women are a problem there? In the middle of nowhere? Oooh, and here I just thought of another way around it - get a meaningless marriage! Ooh yeah...then you can get that baby! Ooooh, better yet...want to get an immigrant a green card? Marry some foreign man, and you got your baby! WhooooOO!OOO!O!O!OO!111one111

[etcet.livejournal.com]

I actually read part of the text of the proposed legislation - what rankles me as much as the "permission to get artificially knocked up" is the explicit language stating "unmarried persons cannot petition for parenthood." that's blatant discrimination, no matter how well-intentioned by the fluffy bunny morality twat behind it.

it's a fun jumping-off point - equating unlicensed pregnancy as, legally, the equivalent of an abortion. so if you really wanted to piss people off, you could get pregnant illegally, then terminate it illegally . . . at which point, hopefully, the lawmaker's head would explode, since two wrongs have now made a right.

Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick!!

[smaugchow.livejournal.com]

OK, that's a great idea. Seriously - thyere are too many fucking morons fucking like morons and having moron babies. I see no problem....except maybe the fact that it's GODDAMN ORWELLIAN, TOTALITARIAN BULLSHIT THAT GOES AGAINST ALL AMERICAN TRADITION AND LAW!. Fuck me runnin', that's horrible!

Lets see, she says "children brought up by both parents do better" and that's her reasoning for this bill. Hmm, well children who go to private schools do better than the kids mired in the underfunded public school system, but I don't see you doing shit about that,bitch! Kids without insurance get better health care than kids without, but I don't see you fixing that shit! Dumb bitch!

Now, lets look a litte deeper at the idiocy. Sue Miller (white woman) wants to lower the number of bad babies (you know, the poor ones, black ones, hispanic ones - all that yucky stuff) to try to keep our Anglo majority in the face of all that dirty minority aggresion. They are breeding us out, you know. But who would actually abide by this stupid law? Who would take a moment to wonder if maybe they should really be doing this? The well-to-do white familes, of course. It's counter productive to her obvious goal of white supremacy. Dumb EVIL bitch!

Lets look even deeper - world population is out of control, but it will take far more than this little law to control it. You need wars, natural disaters and disease to thin out the ranks to any significant degree, so this little law would do essentially nothing to save us from overpopulation. Dumb evil ineffective bitch!

Ya know, intellectually this is a good idea. Population is out of control, poor parenting is on the rise, children are being neglected and abused at an alarming rate, and some accountability would be nice, but in practice it just can't be done. Not in this country, not with our foundation of personal freedom. Maybe China can get away with the one-child-per-family rule, but shit like that don't fly over here. It is purely and specifically against the American Way. Dumb evil ineffective Nazi bitch!

I didn't realize that Sue Miller was a Klans-person. This is so reactionary as to be laughable, like David Duke trying to create the NAAWP - it's just ludicrous. This will be laughed off the floor in the unlikely event that it gets out of committee.

Stupid bitch.

Re: Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick!!

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

"Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana, including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."

There's little chance of this thing effecting anyone who can conceive on their own without medical assistance, and they know it. The courts would be bogged down to a stand still with cases of mothers who conceived naturally without the appropriate marriage certificate, and the state would have to have a huge budget for foster care if they actually imprisoned any of these kinds of infractors of this ridiculous legislation.

The only way they can really make this at all plausible is to levy fines against, and threaten closures of, medical facilities/Doctors who assist in artificial or invitro fertilization, or surrogate mothers.

Which means this will most likely impact gays attempting to use a surrogate or lesbians attempting to use artificial insemination.

Orwellian, indeed. Reminds me also of "The Handmaiden"

Re: Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick!!

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

Whoops. That should read "A Handmaids Tale", I think.

[fenixinthedark.livejournal.com]

This pisses me off for a variety of reasons, but rather than write a tome on your journal I'll post my copious spewage to my own.

However, the more salient points are;

And are we doing anything to penalize the MEN who helped CREATE said life, or is it just "unwed Mothers" we're restricting/punishing with this legislation? This is yet another situation where the mysogyny that is extremist conservative right wing thinking is evident.

Very obviously, this is legislation that is moreso aimed at those people who require medical intervention to conceive, and also obviously, it is aimed at those who cannot marry. This is another way for right wing extremists to infringe on the ability of gays to have children.

I am more disgusted with the ever growing theocracy that is invading our government.

Separation of Church and state my ass.

[tylorael.livejournal.com]

I sent this to my Gender Law prof. It is actually unconstitutional, in that reproductive rights are protected as "fundamental rights" under the Constitution, and this would violate the strict scrutiny requirement.

But, as she put it, how many lives and lifetimes will be ruined by the process while the statute is being declared unconstitutional?

[helcat.livejournal.com]

Has it passed?

[tylorael.livejournal.com]

Not sure.

[mykal.livejournal.com]

As far as I understand, the HFC (the group responsible for the proposal) will be voting on Oct 20th to bring the proposal to the floor of the general assembly - so nothing has been done officially. It's still just a proposal to introduce legislation. Which gives us here in Indy time to stop it.

[dogsbody01.livejournal.com]

Please tell me, that article was a fucking joke!Because if it, isn't may the Ghost of Carrie Buck; steal their Sanity!

[mykal.livejournal.com]

As of last night, the proposal has been dropped. :D

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051006/NEWS02/510060442&SearchID=73222554405134