Well, isn't that *educational* [Cx Drama, Onoes!]

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http://dali-muse.livejournal.com/40115.html

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[etcet.livejournal.com]

I woke up grumpy because it was 5am and my work pager was going HEY, SOMETHING WENT 'SPLODY, YOU FIX NAU!

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

That's okay, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what hit Jack's and Tepesh's pagers at about the same time.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

I've actually met Mike(Tepesh), and in person, he's a pretty good guy. It's disappointing to see folks get caught in the halo of shit sometimes.

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

Entirely probable. However, "nice guy" doesn't get a pass when it comes abetting clusterfuckery, any more than an asshole buying me a drink doesn't get a "thank you". The reputation doesn't influence the response to action so much as the actions influence the reputation.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

This is true; it's been a while since our paths crossed, and this whole sordid affair does tarnish things a fair bit.

[the-macross.livejournal.com]

Actions and associations speak louder than nicey nicey bullshit. Given his long term involvement with these fuckwits, I don't trust him as far a sI could throw the dude.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

with your bad back, i wouldn't advise trying it. ;-)

[inyou.livejournal.com]

I have to say I noticed a huge difference between replying to a thread where he was posting in an official capacity about Tea Party tickets versus replying to a contact request. The contact request was just like any other 'regular person'

[etcet.livejournal.com]

could you clarify what you mean here, because i can't seem to parse what you're saying.

[inyou.livejournal.com]

There was a posting (http://community.livejournal.com/agc_afterglow/64024.html) to agc_afterglow that tepesh mentioned the tea party tickets being non-transferable to answer a question about someone looking to acquire a second ticket for their boyfriend. The postings I had back and forth did not seem to make sense, and were a "beaurocratic answer" of "too bad, your money paid is just a loss" and was a very different "atmosphere" to the small conversation I had with him for a reply to the c13 'contact' page. The contact reply was more down to earth normal-guy conversation instead.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

ahh, okay, i understand what you mean now.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

There really was no culprit, and it self-corrected after about half an hour, so, not merely do to the hour, I was in the dark.

[megiddo-lj.livejournal.com]

Email me when you wake up, Sir. I need to speak with you.

[emzebel.livejournal.com]

What is this about "benefiting them in any way"?

None of any of it is supposed to be benefiting them. Leaving aside, of course, the nasty swipe at y'all, which is to be expected, I suppose.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

They're awfully concerned about things that affect the costs for a non-profit, you notice that?

I'm all for cost control and financial responsibility, but this particular atavism about it is of a stridency that is typically only found in financial stakeholders trying to maximize profits.

Since they have been adamant about their not-for-profit status, comments to the effect of opening their books to support their assertions of good intentions have begun to circulate.

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

Betcha a beer no real figures ever hit the net.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

That would be a Goth*Con flavored beer, wouldn't it?

[emzebel.livejournal.com]

Didn't someone suggest pinging the state of Oregon about an audit somewhere along the line?

[the-macross.livejournal.com]

Vicrose23, IIRc.

I doubt it'll amount to much.

[emzebel.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but I can think of an entity that would have a legitimate interest in the results of such an endeavor.

[etcet.livejournal.com]

Its name wouldn't start with "Big" and end with "Brother," would it?

[lil-m-moses.livejournal.com]

If they are truly on the up-and-up about the non-profit status (I'm still wiling to give them a sliver of a benefit of the doubt), it's entirely possible that all the money-grubbing is simply a resumé-builder. "Aren't I cool?! I spearheaded the organization of a $100k giant bloated non-profit event! Hire me to plan your event for $$$$!"

Either way it still comes back to grossly misplaced greed.

[emzebel.livejournal.com]

I hadn't even thought of that aspect. Even discounting the possibility of them skimming the coffers, I was just thinking more that theoretically one does not put forward a C* bit with the thought that *any* aspect of it will do much more than come within a bat's breath of breaking even financially.

The "benefits" are supposedly the intangible joys of putting on a fabulous decade-plus long party for the net-goths and their friends.

[the-macross.livejournal.com]

who needs a resume when you can just trainjump an existing installation?

[lil-m-moses.livejournal.com]

But if you can trainjump one and then use the experience for your own benefit for screwing over future parties for a profit (no, or only carefully chosen, references of course) after the train has moved on and left you on the siding, why not?

[the-macross.livejournal.com]

It's certainly feasible as one of their Plan B or Plan C's. and more power to em. coz Plan A is permanently derailed.